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second ape meeting tonight (aesthetic purposes exploration).

before i get to that, please indulge me in some atmospheric musings. vineel once told me if you're looking for signs, you'll find them everywhere. well, i couldn't figure out if a few things were auspicious or hinting rather at doom and foreboding. for example, two pens ran out of ink, one of mine and one of ron's. we didn't talk about it until afterwards, and then we didn't dissect it, but i can see at least two ways of interpreting it. one = hey, there's so much to be notated here, you won't be able to get it all. press on, youngsters, this is fertile land you're exploring. two = a pen is for drawing. oh, you want to think about why you would want to draw? no chance, buddy. oh, another pen, eh? sorry buddy. anyway sometimes encourage = discourage and vice versa. the occasional truck going by temporarily dampening conversation seemed mundane real-world oh right these trucks aren't all hauling art around, but the lights jolting on, and cutting off, and back on, without discernible rhythm, seemed significant, but again, there are a lot of ways to take it, what kind of reader are you? what are you bringing to it?

which is where we paused at one point. so here's some of what was talked about:

- i was urged to start charging out these discussion threads, hypotheses, preclusions; use wiki? use flash? this is something i want to do, but it's also the sort of thing that can distract one from artmaking, feels a bit daunting, in the meantime this blog will contain some sort of record;

- the transformers movie is going to inspire creativity (imaginative thinking) in twelve-year-old boys, as star wars did back in the day

- we may not be conscious of hearing structure when listening to music but would immediately notice its absence

- art which lends itself to multiple [viewings] [listenings] may be engaging us in the process of understanding its underlying structure

- [mostly narrative or representational] art which presents a mirror world is unthreatening in its unrealness [and this can illuminate this world]

- for many practitioners of art, it is not necessarily something chosen, or something one wants to do, but essential/compulsive, in a real sense, and leads to knowing oneself, which can also impart understanding-of-other to experiencer (less fear, greater compassion) (communication to peacemaking)

- escape into another world equal negating this world yes some does, but other maybe cause feeling (reality) of transforming this world into other world

- viewer bringing own visual experience to encounter with work, direct experience with the work then creates feedback loop transforming viewer (from one who has never seen x to one who has seen x for a duration or y amount of instants, constant repetition even if short time)

- give you a different experience which you could otherwise not have. (this came up quite late and was not really faced with too much verve, but sitting here now, seems like a crucial point and likely effective start spot for next discussion)

- each new piece of art a new pattern in this universe; we are pattern-recognizers and pattern-makers; art and we are there fore particularly well-suited to one another and you could end up with a chicken/egg quandary here i think

- we are players in the evolution of a thing bigger than any generation of us

- perpetual novelty

light and shadow

(editing)

even at first stroke, there's something. tree leaves in sunlight, the tripod extended overhead, sun puddles. all art is time-based and all art is a collaboration with nature.


multi

matthew was on my mind, we'll have another skype session tomorrow, tonight's was brief. after encountering an "arcadia & anarchy" exhibit reminiscent of some of the ones we saw in tokyo together, i bought a new zealand pear (delicious) from the supermarket as part of my walking snack. now that it's just over three months to kisokaido, want to make sure i'm ready for it.
























some chess editing, this was a really unique one, michael using photoshop projected onto the board while i used wet paint, we both had access to black and white
























daniel seemed to enjoy my enthusiasm for traffic cone aesthetics, showed him this, from my walk
























and this cone in a cone in a hole (triggering "katharine" thought)
























can't imagine life without these people. the people i thought about today, or saw today, or talked to today - would i want to remember what it was like before i knew matthew?

maybe this isn't clear, what it has to do with what i did, or my art, or what my friends and my life have to do with my art. and it maybe won't be, and i want to go to sleep, but quickly - matthew has been on my mind; our collaboration isn't going smoothly; which is fine; not everything can be smooth; human relationships aren't cake; at the guggenheim, i saw that exhibit which contained the sort of pantings we used to see at department stores in tokyo; those joint excursions formed a lot of my early encounters with paintings, painting as a medium, bits of art history, little bits at a time; while editing, i saw paintings between people i had forgotten had even "played" "chess," which were interesting; i saw michael and i taking turns using photoshop and wet paint together, and felt super-lucky that we were able to do that, but again aware that i don't see him as much as i'd like; in the evening alex had organized a little get-together by the river and after an hour daniel and i realize where we each know each other from - we both presented on the same night at dorkbot; so we got to really talk art, best of all, we've actually each seen each others' work - often if you can actually talk about art, you haven't already seen each others' work, it's different that way - and also there were three other people who painted on chess boards; and then matthew reminded me that i wrote him letters from china, this is way back in the day, say 1995, and i was making small paintings with very little conviction, just the desire to paint, to make art, to be an artist, and that it was important to keep painting, but really a lot of thoughtless floundering, and not prolific, not at all, and all these people, i think it makes a difference. we help each other.

when i stand in the guggenheim, and i see a kandinsky painting, and i remember "yes, these were big ones, these were some of the things that made me want to paint" and a mondrian and another mondrian later on and a giacometti, and each of these things were touched by those artists, it's almost a direct connection. christina talked about rothko a bit, and she said simon had a similar experience, me too, that first encounter with a rothko painting, and that's still a direct connection between you and mr. mark rothko who made that with his hands and his antiquated technology in his post-orson-welles world. still fresh, for us. and when i talk to matthew, even if it's skype, it's direct, it's fresh. and when i see michael and i painting together, digital and analog, it's exciting. and none of those things happens without other people. today, i really felt that. we do sometimes.

all art is time based right? well no art is solitary. no kandinsky, no rothko, i don't think. no orson welles, no rothko, i don't think. no matthew turner? very different erik sanner life and paintings, i think.

e32 editing = complete

needed a roughly three-minute chess-related video for e32, it's ready


location picking

making a choice. choices. it has been really nice wandering around thinking "oh, you could do it there, this way" and "or there, this way" and sort of playing with the various images, how it would look, how you would do it, all in my head, yes there's a certain amount of pleasure in that, and of course it's necessary to some extent. but time does pass, and here we are, the piece isn't in the world yet, how is it going to be seen? so, committing, deciding. the idea is choose five spots. pursue them one after the other. if none of those five pan out, choose five more. (quickly.) repeat until the work is visible to everyone who can't see inside my head.

here are my first five choices: http://www.eriksanner.com/es_blog_2007/potential_chess_locations_070706.pdf
i should take a picture of the first one at night, that daytime shot doesn't do justice to the darkness, the barrenness of it. it's a beckoning chasm. a home for a spark.

continuing

editing will continue to continue.


focus on chess

e32 is coming up, plus i want to show the piece, more editing today

kisokaido = real

real booking


















real seat assignments





















look at how happy they made me look. that's real.







all art is time-based

how long will it take to make the thing you want to make?






estimated time: as much as you give it. and it will be greedy for more.

square of cones

my artmini piece is ready to join